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CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Will Browns fans remain loyal to the team, and quarterback Deshaun Watson, now that the NFL has finalized an 11-game penalty?

We’re talking about the settlement for Watson’s behavior toward massage therapists on Today in Ohio.

Editor Chris Quinn hosts our daily half-hour news podcast, this week with City Hall reporter Courtney Astolfi, editorial board member Lisa Garvin and content director Laura Johnston.

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Here are the questions we’re answering today:

The Deshaun Watson penalty phase is, at last over, with him and the NFL agreeing to what will happen to him as a result of his encounters with massage therapists. What is the settlement, and what do the Browns have to say about their star quarterback?

Anyone driving along Interstate 271 in Mayfield knows how big a presence Progressive Insurance is, at least for now. How might that presence shrink?

How is State Sen. Matt Dolan trying to bring some measured thought back into the debate over gun rights in Ohio, following a failed effort by Gov. Mike DeWine?

Are national-level Republicans getting worried about losing Rob Portman’s seat in the U.S. Senate to a democrat? What big step this week seems to show that Republicans are worried about the lackluster campaign of Donald Trump acolyte JD Vance?

Leadership positions in all walks of life in Cleveland do not reflect the demographics of the population, and Case Western Reserve University wants to do something about that. What is it?

The Big 10 college sports conference cut a $7 billion television deal, so what does that mean for member Ohio State University and its fans?

Republicans were worried that an independent candidate for governor on the November ballot might harm the chances of incumbent Mike DeWine. They need not worry. Why not?

One of the most heinous crimes of the past decade was the kidnapping, rape, torture and murder of Alianna Defreeze. What does the Ohio Supreme Court have to say about the sentence her killer received?

Generations of Northeast Ohioans who learned to ski at Boston Mills and Brandywine have a chance to own a piece of their childhoods. Laura, are you bidding today?

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Chris: [00:00:00] It’s a Friday episode of today in Ohio, the news podcast discussion from cleveland.com and the plane dealer. And that means we are looking to get through this because we’re heading into a weekend. I’m Chris Quinn. I’m here with Lisa Garvin, Courtney staffy and Laura Johnston. Well, I’m sure want to take full advantage of one of the last weekends of summer.

And I know Laura I’ve said summer is waning a number of times, and you’ve regularly said, no, no, no, not so fast, but I don’t think you can correct me today. You got two weeks to labor day.

Laura: Yeah. And my kids go back to school on Tuesday. So I did my, what could be my last sunrise summer swim of the season on lake Erie this morning.

And it was Courtney. I don’t know if you saw the lake this morning. Gorgeous. Just, I mean, it was a good, good sunrise flat lake, so I’m trying to squeeze every little bit out of the summer.

Chris: Well, it’s good. You did it today and not Monday, cuz they’re supposed to get a lot of rain on Sunday and you know what that means for the lake.

I can see which in the lake [00:01:00] let’s get going with the big story. The Dashaun Watson penalty phase is at last, over and with him in the NFL, agreeing to what will happen as a result of his encounters with massage therapists, we have a settlement. What do the Browns have to say about their star quarterback?

Lisa: Well, let’s talk about the settlement. Uh, and this was a settlement. So the, uh, the, uh, appeals officer, Peter C. Harvey didn’t even get to rule because the NFL and the NFL players association reached a settlement yesterday. Watson will sit out 11 games, he’ll pay a $5 million fine. And then he has to go through mandatory evaluation and treatment for his behavior.

Um, and then there’s the, the fine. The $5 million fine. Plus 1 million each from the NFL and the Browns will establish a 7 million fund to promote education on sexual misconduct and healthy relationships. So Watson will get to play the final six games starting December. Fourth against [00:02:00] ironically, the Houston Texans, his team where all the trouble started.

So Jacobi Brissett will be the starting quarterback until then also Watson will forfeit $57,500 per game of his base salary. Which is 1 million is his base salary. So he’ll end up paying a, a 630, $2,500 in that situation. So in his statement, Watson said that he appreciates the tremendous support from the Browns organization.

He’s working to become the best version of himself on and off. The field Jimmy and de Haslam in their statement said that we respected the process. The ruling is quote, a real opportunity to create meaningful change, and we will continue to support Watson as he earns the trust of our community.

Chris: Well, let’s put it in perspective, the, the Browns fashion, that contract figuring he was gonna lose a lot of games this year.

So the bulk of the money he gets paid comes in later seasons financially. [00:03:00] This is not as big ahead as it would be. If that contract had been equally broken apart year by year, the, the 11 games does pretty much take the Browns. Out of it for this season, unless by some miracle, the fillin quarterbacks can do it.

If he was going to be out six games, it was a thought, well, okay. You know, if they hang in there for six games or seven or eight games, but let’s face it, 11 games, you’re talking almost two thirds of the season. It’s very unlikely that there’ll be a serious contender when that’s over. In addition, he’s gonna be rusty cuz he’ll miss 28 games.

I, I do think it’s telling that the NFL would. Bend much. There was, there was Mary Kay Cabot. Who’s done phenomenal reporting for us on this reported at one point that they were pushing for 12, the Browns were pushing for H he thought they might settle 10, but they didn’t. The NFL got the 11 and they probably took off the 12th because they knew they’d be in Texas and figured that would be good for ratings but the NFL seems like it really wanted to set a new [00:04:00] precedent.

I, if you remember back to the original ruling that he’d be out the, uh, six games. They said that, you know, the precedent here is for nonviolent crimes like this, you know, there is no precedent. Well, now there’s a precedent. The next person does something abusive that doesn’t involve violence will be facing a much more serious penalty than previously.

And you get the feeling the NFL really wanted to establish that. Yeah. And the

Lisa: mediator, Sue L. That didn’t point that out and which is why she landed on six games. And she said, you can’t just really, you know, change your policy after the fact. So I think the NFL is gonna take hopefully a really hard look at their conduct policy and then shore it up, just so, and I think this is probably a shot across the bow for people who might behave like Watson did and, you know, say, Hey, you know, if I do this, I could be at 11 games or more.

So I think we’re gonna see some policy changes from.

Chris: The the, uh, rape crisis center at Cleveland, [00:05:00] put out a statement saying we stand by women and they’re very unhappy with what’s going on. Uh, they came out strong after the six game suspension came out. They hadn’t been very vocal before then. We, we heard from women.

Locally. We heard from women across the country that were very angry, that the Browns got him with this thing in his background. A lot of people say it, they’ll never watch a Browns game. Again, Ted died and wrote a column saying, you know, if you look at the history, they went a few games, all will be forgotten and forgiven with this penalty.

Do you think any of that changes or is it the same that if he wins a few games, when he comes back, then this will become a memory.

Lisa: I don’t know, Browns fans are very, very, um, intense. Um, I, I, I think there will probably be a small percentage that will probably never watch them again, but, you know, uh, the Browns are so tied with, you know, the psyche of Cleveland.

I just think that if they start winning and, and if [00:06:00] Watson, he, and he has to behave, I mean, he has to comply with this treatment. And if he doesn’t, you know, he won’t be reinstated and that’s up to his. To decide that. So I don’t know. I, I, I think fans will come back. I, I, I honestly do. And you know, if he really shows this effort to improve, I mean, look, we took a chance on Kareem hunt and the Haslam said as much, you know, Jimmy Haslam said, Hey, I believe in second chances, we gave one to Kareem hunt and it turned out very well.

Chris: Yeah, guys now wants to be traded . Um, Courtney, what, where, where do you think you’re you’re of a, of a later generation, do you think people, um, who are younger fans will feel the same way?

Courtney: You know, I mean, I can’t speak for everybody. I think there is that loyalty. Like Lisa said, people. Love the Browns. Even if their QB is found to have done all this, uh, nasty stuff to other people, I [00:07:00] to take a step back, it feels to me like he’ll still get most of his contract money.

He’s gonna get hundreds of millions of dollars from the Browns. After the judge found that he did this. And that almost feels like the rest of the punishments Mo. He is getting hundreds of millions of dollars after he was found to have done these awful things to people. And that’s pretty gross to me, at least.

Laura: I, I think the fans from other teams will end up playing a part in how Cleveland sees itself. Right? Like getting booed at a different game is gonna make people rethink cheering for him. Does that make any sense

Chris: or, or do you think it’ll get Cleveland’s backup that they’ll start to defend him if everywhere he goes, they boo him, was it, will it play to the chip?

The perpetual chip Cleveland has on his shoulder? Like who do you think you are booing our guy?

Laura: I don’t know. It’s well, it’s, that’s, it’ll probably play both ways, honestly, depending on your personality and what you believe, but it is a reminder. You can’t, you’re not gonna forget [00:08:00] what he.

Chris: No, he could be the NFL’s new villain.

Well, we are because there has been so much speculation back and forth. We’re heading down a path where I think we’re gonna do a scientific survey on, on a number of topics, but one of them, one of the topics we’re gonna try and get at is how much has this Deshaun Watson incident meant? Browns fans and what will it do to their behavior?

And then maybe in a year follow up and say, so how many games did you watch? Uh, because it would be nice to figure out, does this have staying power? Are, are the angry emails we received indicative of a pattern? Or did we just hear from vocal people? And most people will kind of follow the team as they always.

Anyway, it’s, uh, it’s nice that that’s over and, and people are moving forward. There there’s no appeal. Like Lisa said, this is it. And unless he screws up, that will be his penalty. It’s today in Ohio. Anyone [00:09:00] driving along interstate 2 71 in Mayfield knows how big of a presence progressive insurance is at least for now.

How might that presence shrink Laura?

Laura: Well, it’s, they’re gonna be selling five buildings and it’s not just Mayfield. We’re talking Mayfield Heights and Highland Heights are part of this five. Building group, as well as the plan that the progressive is gonna sell off a planned third campus, never did anything.

It’s just empty land behind a library, but they were thinking about a future campus. They’re going to sell that. And it’s all because the workforce is continuing to work remotely. After about two years of the pandemic, they reopened their offices early this summer, I believe. And they didn’t really see a change in how people.

Behaved. So I think, you know, we’ve been wondering, we’ve been talking about this for two years. What’s gonna happen to the city specifically downtown, and what’s gonna happen to these suburbs that depend on a lot of office traffic. And this is a very clear signal that real estate holdings are going to change.[00:10:00]

Chris: It’s funny though. We were talking before the podcast about what we might do, cuz I’m leaning more and more heavily to having a much greater presence in the office. And you saw that apple has done that. And I think Facebook has done that. Peloton has done that. They’re saying you gotta come back and if you don’t come back, you’re out of a job.

Because they’re detecting chinks in that armor, that things aren’t going as well as they were early in the pandemic. And they want people together for that workplace culture. They want people together so they can monitor the work more easily. Uh, and so I’m wondering whether this is premature. I mean, think about it.

We have this profound cultural change from the pandemic. Everybody stopped working in the office and went home and we’ve only gone two and a half years. We’re barely beyond. We’re not even beyond the pandemic. It’s still with us very much. Do you really wanna start making these very expensive decisions before you know, the [00:11:00] true end, especially with other companies making the opposite decision?

Laura: I mean, you sound like a mayor of one of these towns, right? Don’t sell them. No, no, no. Don’t say that these buildings only. 5% of the company’s real estate holding. So that is, we are not talking a big chunk and that’s what the mayors are saying. You know, they’re keeping the jobs. What I love about them saying we’re keeping the jobs in Mayfield really means we’re keeping the income tax in Mayfield.

So, yeah. Right. I mean, I don’t know that that is all played out yet. I don’t know what they’ve seen in the people requesting refunds, but, you know, as, as hot as real estate market was. Homes. It’s very soft for offices right now. And so the suburban offices are work worth, not worth, but they’re, they’re doing a little bit better in the market because people are very, are more likely to drive to a building where they can park right outside and walk in a door rather than going to a parking garage and circling up and finding a space and going back down and walking to their building.[00:12:00]

So I, you know, maybe we see. The maybe that’s the future. Like this hybrid work is gonna be at more convenient office location.

Chris: Yeah. And they said they’re getting rid of their, their lesser locations quality wise. So yeah, this could just be a winnowing. I don’t know though. I, I mean, anecdotally I, the more and more as I talk to people, they’re talking about how they feel.

A loss from not having that workplace culture. And, but

Laura: when, when there’s a shortage of workers, when you’re competing for all the same employees, if employees want to work from home, they’re gonna choose the company where they don’t have to come into the office. I think that’s gonna be something you have to weigh.

Chris: For people that insist on that. Yeah. Although the pendulum will swing the economy doesn’t stay that way forever. Correct. Right. Um, and again, I’ve talked to, to people who are, who would like to be back more often. It’s a, it’s a when progressive. Let’s face it Mayfield lives and dies by those income taxes from progressive.

So [00:13:00] little swings in that can be very meaningful for that tiny village, which raises questions about why does that tiny village exist? why don’t we have more bigger municipalities. We talked about this yesterday. You’re listening to today in Ohio. How is state Senator Matt Dolan, trying to bring some measured thought back into the debate over gun rights in Ohio, following a failed effort by governor Mike DeWine, Courtney, this was a bit of a surprise.

Matt Dolan had tried to. To run for Senate did very well, but didn’t beat JD Vance who has pretty much disappeared from Ohio, but now he comes to the fore with a very not conservative proposal. You know, when you’re running for, as a Republican these days, you’ve gotta be to the furthest right. Fringes. It seems like the fringiest infringe people are the ones that get on the ballot.

And this is not what voters for those folks want.

Courtney: Yeah. So Senator Dolan he’s chagrin falls, uh, representative in the state Senate [00:14:00] he’s, you know, saying that on that bid for, for Senate, he really CA came away with the takeaway that voters want measures that address gun violence, that also respect and maintain the second amendment.

So he’s saying that run really kind of informed this move, which I found interesting. And what this bill does is it’s kind. A remixed version of a bill. He introduced for dine back in 2019, but it changes some things up. So one piece of this bill is going to be 175 million in stimulus money to fund regional mental health crisis centers and help pay to higher mental health workers in schools, hospitals, nursing, home, nursing homes and clinics, but a big piece of this.

Goes back to, it’s a red flag law. They’re trying to get away from that language because that’s been a, a political problem. It’s a red flag. right. But it is a red flag law. So it sets up a legal process that [00:15:00] he said is a little bit more aimed at, at due process and tightens up some things. And that prior version of the bill, but basically what would happen here is a judge would have to find a person.

Essentially a, a pink slip they’d have to make a determination that they could be involuntary com involuntarily committed to a hospital for mental health reasons. And if they hit that bar, then the person would go before a judge and that, and before a mental health professional, That would be needed before a judge could rule, then that police can go and seize their weapons.

So it does have some changes there aimed at giving folks a little bit more due process before guns are taken away, even if they haven’t been convicted of crimes.

Chris: Dolan’s problem is he isn’t a legislature because of gerrymandering has just been whackadoodle. I mean, Mike DeWine put in very reasonable gun rules, really [00:16:00] pushed hard on multiple occasions and he got nowhere.

So Matt Dolan. Probably faces a very uphill battle, but isn’t it nice to see a, a Northeast Ohio Republican, trying to pull his party back toward the center from the, the crazy place it has been. This is this what he’s proposing is basic common sense. And I should say he’s, uh, he’s written a piece for us will publish in the next day or two where he more fully lays out his thinking here.

So look. The next few days on cleveland.com and the plain dealer, but it’s just so nice to see a Republican in Ohio being reasonable. Yeah. We

Courtney: we’re already seeing pushback from gun groups. They don’t like other provisions, but I did wanna lay out a couple more things that this bill would do. Some, some other little things, you know, someone between the age of 18 and 21.

We know young folks acquiring guns, gun violence in cities. It’s a lot of young folks, right. It would require those folks to get a COSIG. To buy a gun who’s 25 years or older, and that cosigner could be held [00:17:00] civilly liable. If, if, if that gun is then used to commit a crime before the person turns 21, I thought that was interesting.

There was definitely pushback from gun groups on that. And then there’s also provisions that would, um, allow private gun sellers to require local police to certify. That someone who’s buying their gun. Hasn’t been convicted of a crime that stops ‘em from doing so, so there’s other stuff in here and all of it seems to be getting push back.

Like we’d probably kind of expect at this point.

Chris: What’s sad is the pushback. When we say it’s from gun rights groups, it’s really not gun rights groups. It’s gun manufacturers who control those groups. And these rules would reduce gun sales. If I had to sign for somebody, if I had a kid that was under the age, then he needed my signature to buy the gun.

I’m unlikely to do that, right? Because you don’t want that liability. You don’t want to face losing everything you own in case something goes wrong, which means fewer gun sales. [00:18:00] It’s always characterized as it’s a gun rights group, but it’s not, this is all about the gun manufacturers, continuing to push for gigantic levels of sales.

Uh, I, I wish. Him? Well, I think he’s got a mountain to climb it’s today in Ohio. Speaking of wackadoo Republicans are national level Republicans getting worried now about losing Rob Portman’s seat in the us Senate to a Democrat. What big step this week seems to show that Republicans are worried about the lackluster campaign of Donald Trump, acolyte, JD Vance, Lisa, this.

Fascinating turn in this, you saw yesterday that the in Pennsylvania, the Democrat is starting to surge over the kind of crazy Republican that’s running. We have a similar situation brewing here.

Lisa: Yeah. And, you know, Democrat, Tim Ryan is, uh, you know, uh, An internal polling by both Ryan’s campaign. And the G O P has found that he, you know, they’re [00:19:00] basically in a dead heat Vance and Ryan and Ryan is even ahead by a few points in a couple of polls.

So yeah, they’re worried. So they’re throwing money at JD Vance. The Senate leadership fund, which is kind of, uh, under the ages of Senator Mitch McConnell will spend $28 million on TV and radio ads for JD Vance to start after labor day, that puts Ohio number three in PAC spending by this S SL F pack. The Georgia race is drawing 37.1 million from this group they’re in number one and then Pennsylvania, they’re throwing money at that, uh, candidate that 34.

0.1 million in that race. And so this increased spending obviously reflects concerns by the national G O P that Tim Ryan is out raising Vance, which he has, and Ryan has never stopped running ads. He’s run them all summer and only now are you seeing a couple of JD Vance ads popping up? So. You know, so he’s been able to [00:20:00] campaign on TV with like no response from, from Vance at all.

Kyle Condi, who’s a political analyst at the university of Virginia and an Ohio native says this spending may change the national perception of the Ohio race, but he said, you know, this also race is a big red flag that they’re worried about this.

Chris: Well, this is the result of Donald Trump leading his party down a dangerous path.

He endorsed Vance. That’s probably what got Vance over the line. If Ryan were running against Matt Dolan, this would be a very different contest. Matt Dolan would appear appeal to the center, which state advance isn’t gonna appeal his center. He’s. He’s he’s on as far, right. Crazy as can be. And abortion will be in this debate and all sorts of other issues, which would’ve been different with another candidate, but Donald Trump weighed in and now has left the Republicans.

They could lose a seat, forget adding a seat in the Senate. This one could go Democrat. It’s fascinating that they just now recognize that two weeks before labor [00:21:00] day, but that. A lot of money. So we’ll have to see how effective it is. The problem they still have is they’re putting 28 million behind a guy who is just so darned unlikable.

every time you see him speak, he’s just not somebody who resonates warm fuzzies. Uh it’s it’s going to be the most interesting race on the ballot. I suspect. You’re listening to today in Ohio leadership positions and all walks of life in Cleveland, do not reflect the demographics of the population and case.

Western university wants to do something about that. Laura, what are they doing?

Laura: They’ve developed a program called the executive leadership development program. It’s open to all professionals, but it was explicitly created. For black leaders where, uh, participants can come and engage and connect on Thursday through Saturday, once a month, the applicants are, should have about 10 years of prior business experience and five years of management experience.

And the idea is that. Black leadership. Hasn’t [00:22:00] grown in Northeast, Ohio. Not because black leaders are not ready for the positions, but because of systemic issues that causes under representation where they haven’t had the chance they haven’t had the networking. So it’s going to assist folks in preparing to make sure that they are part of that mix.

Chris: Okay. We’re having technical difficulty here. I hope we’re. We’re all back. You’re listening to today in Ohio, the big 10 college sports conference cut a $7 billion television deal. So what does that mean for Ohio state university? And more importantly, what does it mean for their fans, Courtney?

Courtney: Yes, ABC and ESPN have been carrying big 10 games for decades, and that’s not gonna happen anymore.

Starting in 2023, we got the details on the streaming deal between big 10 and various networks. So now those games are going to be shown on Fox CBS. NBC. They’ll continue to be on the big 10 network at [00:23:00] times. And they’re also coming to peacock streaming service. So like I said, this will start next year.

It’ll run for seven years and we learned that this deal’s worth over 7 billion. So OSU and other conference members of the big 10 are expected to get between 80 and a hundred million dollars annually. That’s a big boast over the current and the previous deal, which was around 54 million annually. And, and we’re gonna see games play out, you know, throughout the day across those networks.

And, you know, we noted in, in our reporting on this, that, that OSU will probably, you know, they’ll be even more in demand because there’s more places where these, where these games will be streaming. It won’t just be Fox and ABC ESPN, like it was before.

Chris: Well, we know from the popularity of our, our, our podcast called Buckeye talk, hosted by Doug LA, Maurice, how widely spread the Ohio [00:24:00] state fandom is.

We get listens from across the planet, not just across the United States. So you’re right by, by making a greater availability. More people will be able to tap in than more before. And they’ll be very grateful because as we know from Buckeye talk, they’re a very vocal group of folks that like to, to sound off on how their team is doing $7 billion, though.

It just staggers the imagination. How much money is involved in college football and come January. People in Ohio will be able to bet on it. So the money machine will rev up even faster.

Courtney: And, and Doug LeMar kinda laid out what OSU fan fans can potentially expect out of this deal. He kind of guessed that there’d be four or five noon games on Fox, a couple games in that midday time slot on CBS.

And then a couple of prime time games on NBC as well, and then potentially one game a year on the [00:25:00] peacock streaming service. And you can imagine NBC wants to draw OSU and big den eyeballs to their streaming service. So that makes sense that that’s part of this deal as well.

Chris: Okay. If you’re a Buckeyes fan and you’ve never listened to Buckeye talk, you ought to trick it out anywhere.

You can listen to podcast. People love Doug on that podcast. It’s one of the most popular sports podcasts in America. It’s today in Ohio. Republicans are worried that an independent candidate might be on the ballot and steal some votes for Mike DeWine, but that’s not gonna happen. What’s the deal. Lisa, the

Lisa: Ohio Supreme court upheld secretary of state Frank Larose’s rejection of petitions from Jaga county residents, F Patrick and Mary COE to run his.

Independent candidates for governor. Um, they, there was, they were rejected because they voted in the may G O P primary five days after they filed a declaration that they were gonna run as independence in the race. But the Kades argued that, uh, there were previous court [00:26:00] rulings that are that voting and partisan primaries.

Doesn’t determine if candidates can run his independence. Um, the Supreme court and its unsigned ruling said, well, past rulings, rest on a logical. Fallacy theanine said that they didn’t swear an oath to the G O P when they voted and they blamed poll workers for not offering them an issues only ballot during the primary.

Uh, the Supreme court says that asking for a partisan ballot is an act of affiliation with that party.

Chris: I think this will bear on what the Cuyahoga county board of elections does in a separate case where somebody who is sitting in the legislature as a Democrat, wants to be on the ballot as an independent.

It just doesn’t make sense. You, if you are part of a party officially, what the Supreme court seems to be saying here is you can’t pretend to be an independent, not a surprising ruling, but given how confusing Ohio’s rules are, it’s nice that we. A precedent now [00:27:00] upon which future decisions can be based.

It is today in Ohio. We only have room for one more and I don’t wanna miss this one generations of Northeast Ohioans who learn to ski at Boston mills and Brandy wine, have a chance to own a piece of their childhoods. And Laura, I’m talking about you, are you bidding

Laura: today? Yes, and my mom and my sister are like, why did you write us?

Story about this. The prices are gonna get inflated because now people are gonna know about it. So, but my husband is glad because he’s like, what are we gonna do with a chairlift in our backyard? Right. So we’re talking

Chris: about, it’s a swing, right? You would like to do a swing.

Laura: Yeah. I have to build something or someone’s gonna have to build something to make that into a swing and it’s not gonna be me or my husband.

So anyway, bail resorts is auctioning off the double chair lift it’s right in the middle at, uh, north bowl. And Peter’s pride at Boston mills. It has been there. I don’t know how long, but definitely since I learned to ski in the mid eighties, so 10 chairs from that chair. Four or sorry, [00:28:00] 20 from the quads at Brandy wine, they’ve had a couple of old quad shares.

There that’s four people. Those are gonna be auctioned off as well as signs from the old, uh, chairlift. Actually Alpine valley is going to have a couple of gonna have a chairlift as well, too. So veil is finally making some improvements to these ski resorts that they bought three years ago. Bidding’s gonna start today at noon, $250 minimum for the doubles, a hundred for the quads.

You’re gonna have to have a truck to get that thing home. I mean, I might be able to get the chairlift in my SUV. I I’m like cursing myself for getting rid of the van already. what

Chris: about the, uh, the signs? I mean, those signs have been there since, as far back as you can remember. They, they, they have a very, almost 1950s field to them, but are you interested in getting one of the tin signs, the maps of the trails or the little.

Goofy figures they use to people. Yeah, absolutely.

Laura: I think those would be a lot easier to transport and I could put those on my garage or something. So yeah, I, I mean, [00:29:00] there is so much nostalgia, I think for people who grew up skiing, these, these ski resorts, I mean, they’re so small. Uh, we never named none of the chairs at Boston mills have named.

Like, if you go out west or even to holiday valley, every chair is a name, we don’t name them. It’s like, yeah, that one you can just point to it. so, um, yeah, I think, I think there’ll be some competition for these. The good thing is anything over the two 50 that you bid and you pay, uh, is tax deductible, cuz it does go to the boys and girls, um, group of Northeast, Ohio, and then something called the epic foundation for.

Bail employees, you can find

Chris: Laura’s piece about this on cleveland.com. It tells you how to register and get signed up. Bidding starts at noon. So you want to get registered before then and bidding starts, I think, on the chairs at a hundred bucks and the signs at 25

Laura: bucks, right? Laura? Yeah, exactly. And the bidding closes that’s on Saturday at noon.

So it’s a pretty quick turnaround.

Chris: It’s today in Ohio and that does it for a week of news. Thank you, Lisa, Laura and Courtney. And [00:30:00] thank you for listening. Layla’s back on Monday, come back and give us a listen.

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